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2020 Astrologically Seen – What is Happening?

I think we are experiencing the most interesting time in history, never before have humankind contemplated all over earth at the same time, practically closed the earth down.

The Dancing Stars of Capricorn

There are three main planets that define the living cycle of the year, the curriculum we go through, and that is Saturn, Jupiter and Mars. The scenes are the signs that give the background for the movements of the planets, and here is Capricorn the main scene, where one of the major players is at home, Saturn, the Father and Jupiter, the Son, makes their magic.

Pluto works in the primary scene of Capricorn, Uranus in the secondary scene of Taurus and Neptune in Pisces, but all three have heavy historical significance. Following Willy Sucher the winners of the “War in Heaven” set their footprint in Capricorn.

IMG_8460Fearlessness and the Corona Crisis

Astrology don’t really look for the spiritual powers of the planets, they have created a mathematical framework and given the planets a number of characteristics, and some have connected them with archetypal descriptions, like Saturn is the father. The esoteric traditions connects the planets with hierarchies and elemental beings, but they seldom put it into direct words. What does the planets really stand for, what is the powers behind them?

IMG_8498The Trinity, the Three Logoi, their sizes expressing their respective powers.

The trinity is defined by

  1. Saturn is connected to the mineral, to the old Saturn development and to the Father. So Saturn is the Father’s hand into the physical world.
  2. Jupiter is the benevolent god, connected to the etheric, to the old Sun and to the Son, the Logos, and is the greatest power in our solar system.
  3. Mars is the young and very speedy god Hermes or the Holy Spirit acting into the astral world, and connected to the old Moon development.

Saturn is also known as Brahma, Jupiter as Vishnu and Mars as Shiva. Incarnations of Earth.

This diagram shows the Trinity in three octaves, the inner planets, Moon, Venus and Mercury working within in the daily cycle, the outer planets Saturn, Jupiter and Mars working on humanity from outside in the yearly cycle, and the outer planets Neptune, Pluto and Uranus orchestrating the century cycle:

IMG_8611See more on the Cosmic Christ here: The Cosmic Christ and the Zodiac

The stars are rather remarkable this year, it’s all under the supervision of Pluto, the big reformer. Pluto is the inaugurator in the sign of Capricorn, giving purpose to the Trinity of Saturn, Jupiter and Mars and Saturn/Father and Jupiter/Son is circling within orb around Pluto a large part of 2020:

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At the first conjunction between Pluto and Jupiter the trinity Saturn, Jupiter and Mars is standing together preparing the work.

Retrograde Planets – Below the Surface

Most planets goes retrograde within the same time period this year and it means inner development, that things go slowly, much happen below the surface. Retrograde means that the planets seems to move backwards, they stay longer in the same area of the zodiac. So the themes this year are prolonged, the time used to handle the problems in depth are at hand.

RetrogradeRetrograde Movement as seen from Earth. 

The setup for this year is a combination of the American revolution, the end of the great depression and the time where the slavery was about to end.

There are especially three planets who have a profound influence on the long term development, Pluto, Neptune and Uranus. Pluto goes retrograde in Capricorn and the last time Pluto was in Capricorn was at the American revolution. The States are born with Pluto in 27° Capricorn, and in two years this cycle is at its end, the old is dissolving and something new is about to start. Neptune goes retrograde in Pisces, and the last time Neptune was in Pisces was the time when the movement to end slavery took speed. Uranus goes retrograde in Taurus and the last time Uranus was in Taurus was at the end of the great depression.

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Today everybody is a slave of the thoughts their culture has introduced them too, a materialism we think is inevitable, that the world has to look as it does. To get out of it we need to go through a depression-like condition before we wake from our conditioned life.

The virus was put in motion by Saturn (Father) meeting the inaugurator Pluto, causing the Coronavirus. It started in December but was at it’s strongest Jan 12 and its powers continue for years. Saturn goes into the free airy Aquarius Mar 21 to go retrograde May 11 in Aquarius. In Aquarius, there is a wish for freedom, and everything isn’t as heavy, but Saturn returns to the heavy Capricorn again July 1, and now things become serious.

The Jupiter (Son) is controlling our inner experience helped by Mars. Jupiter has a rendezvous with Pluto that is strongest Apr 12, but we have been under increasing influence before that, but here it becomes serious. They meet again Jun 30, and until then we are acclimatizing ourselves to the new state. At that time Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto are all retrograde, meaning that we are kind of introvert. This is exceptional that the major planets are retrograde at the same time. It also increases the length these planets stay in the the same signs, increasing the influence of the sign. Hereafter we begin thinking about our visions, our goals. On Nov 12 Jupiter meets Pluto the last time, here we have a kind of conclusion.

Saturn goes into Aquarius again Dec 17 and optimism blooms in the freedom-loving Aquarius, shortly followed by a conjunction with Jupiter Dec 21, starting a new cycle with Jupiter.

Parallel with this, Jupiter has a series of rendezvous’ with Neptune, starting Feb 20 in Pisces. This is about visions and maybe dissolving our beliefs to open up for something new. The next meeting between Jupiter and Neptune is Jul 27, now we begin working with new ideas, and on Oct 12 we may reach a kind of conclusion, know what we ant to put into reality.

Mars is pushing us under the process from various star signs, ending in Aries where it stay for a longer period as the result of a retrograde. Mars in Aries means action, passionately starting something new.

Saturn was conjunct Pluto in Cancer in 1914 – 15 at the beginning of the First World War. Here we first met AIDS. Saturn was conjunct Pluto in Leo in 1948-49 when Mao Zedong’s communist party defeated the Chinese Nationalists and took control of China.

Saturn and Pluto last aligned in 1982 in the sign of Libra. Here AIDS became known and we had the depression with the US Savings and Loan Crisis. Falklands Island War and the Lebanon War. A book by Dean Kontz from 81 where he kind of predicted a virus from Wuhan, shows what energies that are connected with Saturn and Pluto relation.

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The End of Kali Yuga, the Return of Christ and the Discovery of Pluto

There was a previous incident with these three planets, Saturn in opposition to Jupiter and Pluto, in 1930/31. This was the time of the discovery of Pluto, bringing it into our consciousness for the first time. This was at the end of Kali Yuga and the return of Christ, where the Christ powers slowly began to permeate the earth, to take power when the new yuga starts, now. Pluto can be seen as the great inaugurator. And it was at the time of the great recession and the rise of Nazism, a typically result of the opposition. Steiner on the Reappearence of Christ.

Pluto as a higher octave of the Son, was conjunct the lower octave of the Son, Jupiter, but in opposition to Saturn, the Father. It was a hard birth into the physical world, it was resisting the Son, and Nazism and Communism WWII was the expression of this resistance.

SecondCominAt the beginning of the Thousand Years Kingdom

This text fits the current situation nicely, the return of Christ and the entry to the Thousand Years Kingdom, and connects to the text of Steiner in the start:

Be still before the LORD and wait patiently for him; do not fret when men succeed in their ways, when they carry out their wicked schemes.
Refrain from anger and turn from wrath; do not fret – it leads only to evil. For evil men will be cut off, but those who hope in the LORD will inherit the land.
A little while, and the wicked will be no more; though you look for them, they will not be found.
But the meek will inherit the land and enjoy great peace.” Psalm 37:7-11

The old souls By Peter Deunov – the Enemies of Darkness

There are hints about the New Humanity in the New Testament and specially in Revelation. The Evangelist John, two thousand years ago, saw the woman pregnant with this great idea, the New Humanity, and fixed the number of the chosen ones, the bearers of this idea at 144 000 persons. If you add these numbers 1+4+4 = 9, the number 9 signifies an evolution of men who have all the positive, noble qualities.

Some would say that these l44 000 persons are in heaven. No, they are now here, on earth; they are incarnated among the intelligent people. Some of them are writers; others, poets or men of science; and all of them push humanity forward on the path toward the new idea, toward the Divine.

These are the enemies of darkness, of the fetters that enchain humanity. And the world-wide unrest, this great change that is coming, is due to them. They will turn this world upside down. History of the Old Souls (kgm, Steiner.)

Saturn Conjunct Pluto January 12, 2020 in 23° Capricorn

DissolvingPlansSaturn is the Father energies, and with the inspiration from Pluto, there comes large changes in the physical world. This is about rebirth, about courage and love. We are here to create a new future for us and the future generations. The conjunction between Saturn and Pluto have earlier meant the collapse of the establishment like government, economy, banking, and big corporations, and mass disease, like the coronavirus. This conjunction will create an enormous energy that will be felt strongly through the whole year, and through new cycles of Saturn and Pluto through the next forty years or so.

The large corporations and companies have large expenditures and without income, they may be very vulnerable and may be difficult to save for the state, although they may try, but hopefully will common sense stop them. If we lock our societies up in the small, our small companies may survive and they may only need smaller amounts of money for survival. A smaller lock up will not help the large corporations in the same degrees as the smaller companies. It’s not possible to see how the economy will be hit, like negative prices for oil.

The karmic energies of the Saturn-Pluto conjunction has initiated the Coronavirus and with the Pluto-Jupiter conjunction the breakdown of the materialistic societies, where people have been sent home to contemplate, to isolate themselves from each other in fear of the Coronavirus.

The Problem

Modern civilization can’t solve its own problems, humanity and the old souls have to decide what their future is, and it is now!

We must be quite clear that many people — in greater and greater numbers — simply cannot come to terms with life. Some admit this to themselves — they are possibly the best. Others do not admit it, and the world-chaos into which we have fallen is due to their actions. All the chaos, the disorder that exists today, is the direct consequence of this inner cleavage, this ignorance of the extent to which the moral world has reality. Men prefer to blunt their understanding of the great world-problems since they are unwilling to force themselves to admit where the cleavage actually lies. They prefer to ignore it. Now the cleavage cannot be healed by what is today called civilization. Rudolf Steiner

Coronavirus

The Coronavirus is the joker in the game, it’s a game changer. Virus are not alive, neither is it dead material. It’s in a state in the middle between the physical and the plant, the etheric. Outside a cell it’s potential life, inside a cell it becomes living as result of the life in the cell. When people become deadly sick by this virus the physical body and etheric body is loosened from each other, we are not bound to the physical world as much, we become less materialistic, we hear the inspirations from the spiritual world much better.

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The virus can be very aggressive, and for those who survive it’s aggressive form, the etheric body and physical body have been loosened as if by a scalpel. Sickness, accidents or strong shock may separate the physical and etheric body, and this makes us less materialistic, we are also less prone creating new karma, and we are more open to inspirations from the spiritual.

Rudolf Steiner has described how Goethe was sick and how it changed his connection to the spiritual world.

From “The Karma of Vocation” – On Goethe

”With Goethe, this force of soul became even stronger, and yet he lived to an advanced age. What enabled him to live so long? You will recall that I reminded you yesterday of a fact that intervened significantly in Goethe’s life..

After he had spent some years in Leipzig as a student, he became seriously ill and stood face to face with death. He virtually looked death in the face. This illness is, to be sure, a natural phenomenon in the organism. However, we never learn to understand a man who creates out of the elemental forces of the world — indeed, we never learn really to understand any man — unless we take into consideration such events in the course of his karma.

What really happened to Goethe when he became ill in Leipzig? We may describe it as a complete loosening of the etheric body in which the life forces of the soul had been active until then.

It was loosened to such an extent that, after this illness, he no longer had that closely knit connection between the etheric and the physical bodies that he had formerly possessed.

The etheric body, however, is the supersensible member in us that really makes it possible to form concepts, to think.

Abstract concepts such as we have in ordinary life, the only concepts that are approved by most persons who are materialistically disposed, come about through the fact that the etheric body is, as it were, closely united with the physical by a strong magnetic union.

It is also through this fact that we possess a strong impulse to project our will into the physical world, that is, provided the astral body is strongly developed. In the case of Robespierre, Mirabeau and Danton, we have an etheric body strongly united with the physical but also a powerfully developed astral body.

This works, in turn, upon the etheric body, which establishes these human individualities strongly in the physical world.

Goethe was also organized like this, but another force now worked in him and brought about a complication. The result was that the etheric body was loosened and remained so through the illness that had brought him to the point of death.

When the etheric body is no longer so intimately united with the physical body, however, it no longer thrusts its forces into the physical but retains them. This explains the transformation Goethe passed through when he returned to Frankfurt.

There, during his acquaintance with Fräulein von Klettenberg, the mystic, and with various medical friends who were devoted to studies in alchemy, and through the writings of Swedenborg, he really developed a systematic spiritual world conception.

It was still somewhat chaotic, but nevertheless a systematic spiritual world conception, and he was profoundly inclined to occupy himself with supersensible things.

Here we see how a natural event seems to enter with immense significance into the life of a human being.

Undoubtedly, it points to a deeper interrelationship than the one the biographers generally wish to reveal. The significance of an illness to a man cannot be explained on the basis of hereditary tendencies but rather points to the connection between a man and the world in such a way that this relationship must be conceived spiritually. You will note also how Goethe’s life was thus complicated; such experiences determine how we take things in and what we are ourselves.”

Steiner describes it also as the Baptism with Water:

What was the purpose of the baptism with water in Jordan? It was intended that through the loosening of their etheric bodies and the experiences they underwent the candidates for baptism should feel themselves transposed into the condition of consciousness of the time before the “Fall”. … He had to return to his original state of innocence, to cleanse his soul of the evil which this aberration had brought.

Jordan Peterson, who have a strong presence in the physical world, have been near death recently, and it seems his heart have opened up. I have two friends who have gone or are going through the sickness, and there is for the one a stronger personal presence and for the other a deeper clairvoyance than before the sickness. A journalist who after the sickness wasn’t satisfied with his previous job, may also be an indication of an awakening, that their connection to the material world has lessened.

Most old souls I know have gone through a sickness, an accident or a shock, that have loosened the etheric and the physical body from each other, and they have a kind of innocence without being naive as they have tried it all through their many lives. See also Anima Sola – The Lonely Soul – From an Esoteric View

Steiner describes the epidemics of bacillas as the result of a won battle by the higher powers over the Ahrimanic beings who were thrown down on earth (Battle between Michael and Ahriman.)

Is the Coronavirus then the result of the returned Christ winning over the Asuras?

Mars conjunct Jupiter March 20, 2020, in 23° Capricorn

Mars is the messenger of God. This conjunction connects to the previous conjunction between Saturn and Pluto, here we think of war against the Coronavirus. When it moves into Aquarius freedom becomes the central topic.

Pluto-Jupiter Conjunctions

Jupiter and Pluto will invite a deepening of growth, digging into the roots of circumstance to discover what truly matters and brings cultural change. Pluto, as we’re seeing with the Coronavirus, can bring death, transformation, and rebirth. Jupiter, the Son, is all about expansion, so whatever Pluto is doing it can make gargantuan! Jupiter will expand the energies of Pluto and amplify what it is we need to transform. This is also a time where we are likely to see news around economy and banking. This Jupiter-Pluto Triple Conjunction, starting with Pluto conjunct Saturn and ending with Jupiter conjunct Saturn is extremely strong. The conjunction came into orb on January 29, 2020, and will remain in orb through January 7, 2021, this will be the stage for the conjunction.

The first conjunction puts us in a problematic situation, the second conjunction comes when we have worked with the problem and better understood what it’s all about, and the third solution comes when we have decided what to do, or not to do.

It’s an old well known problem, Materialism, and materialism alienates people from each other, through centralization it has put people into boxes and cut their lines to neighbors, friends and family. Pluto conjunct Saturn created the Coronavirus, but it is not the real problem, the problem is how we handle it.

1. Pluto – Jupiter Conjunction, April 4, 2020, in 24° Capricorn

Materialism gives up, hides behind the barricades, and let the society die a slow death. Twenty years ago materialism had fought the virus without closing the society down, production and consumerism wouldn’t have been stopped, but materialism today is weak, have no energy to fight.

This is really about fear of life! In many books about a dystopian future people live isolated. This is what is happening now, we are taught to live with distance to each other, in each our small box, because of fear for a sickness that really isn’t much worse than the flu we already have, except it’s quicker to infect.

And we are supposed to hide a year at least to a vaccine is found! Are we going to hide behind the barricades?

At the same time we are given a period to contemplate, where all of earth are contemplating at the same time, giving the old souls, who are ready, the possibility to go through the illumination, the initiation.

Pluto goes retrograde on April 24th to October 4th, 2020 and Saturn goes retrograde May 11th to September 29th, 2020.

2. Pluto-rx – Jupiter-rx Conjunction, June 30th, 2020

Are we going to hide behind the barricades? Have we begun to understand whats we should do?

On this day, retrograde Jupiter is conjunct retrograde Pluto, stirring themes from March 2020. Whatever themes happened in March may present again in some way in order for us to learn more information or to work through more of the lessons. We will gain new insights and knowledge, to be prepared to handle world karma.

3. Jupiter – Pluto Conjunction, Nov 12, 2020

On this day, Jupiter and Pluto conjunct again for the last time. This energy is extremely rare and will help to bring a closure to events that happened in March and June of 2020. Pluto and Jupiter working together may also leave gifts of abundance and help us to claim back our power in some way. They may also change the way we view abundance and money as well. This is kind of the Synthesis of the previous two conjunctions.

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Saturn-Jupiter Conjunction in Aquarius, Dec 21, 2020

The Saturn-Jupiter conjunction in Aquarius is the rebuilding of what couldn’t stand through the year. When Jupiter and Saturn come together there is both the intensity of old forms dying as well as the fertility of new growth beginning to take shape, now formed in the air sign Aquarius energies of freedom.

Saturn and Jupiters conjunctions in earth, like 1961, characterised by a sense of limitless expansion and development, manifesting as the material prosperity of the post-war era, and in 1981, a new conjunction accelerated with growth of new technologies and corporate power expanding in ways never seen before, with national governments becoming subordinate to the financial interests of powerful corporations, and corporations solidifying their control with digital technologies. The opposition between Saturn and Jupiter in 1989/90 happened at the time of the fall of the Berlin Wall and the fall of the Soviet Union and the Savings and Loan crisis of 1989, which ended in the 1990 recession.

How Dangerous are the Coronavirus?

This video with Prof. Dr. med. Sucharit Bhakdi is the most balanced description of the current situation around the coronavirus.

 

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Libra – an explanation through teamwork

I had some years ago a good idea exchange on Johfra’s beautiful picture of Libra, and bring it here as it is illuminating.

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Libra by
Franciscus Johannes Gijsbertus van den Berg – Johfra

More star-sign pictures here:  http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=39381&id=1839344728&l=af168900b8

From  October 2, 2010

Maya

This one is very interesting.

Kim

It is, see the colors, in the top it’s blue to the left and red to the right as in the Gemini picture, but the sphinxes below have the opposite colors. And Sun and Moon opposite also.

We have Seth to the left with two snakes wound around him as the Asclepius staff. He holds the “Crux Ansata” ☥ in his hand, connected to the intellectual soul, the Ego.
The Sun and Moon are placed in paths formed like the eternity symbol.
To the right we have Isis with the cow horns.
http://Kimgraaemunch.wordpress.com/tag/sophia/

Maya

Aha, but these are the obvious things … my eyes go to the flowers and what is on the scale … i think that’s the story behind. 🙂

Kim, look at the god-form closer … is that an ibis head maybe .. cause sethian form has squared ears and a long, down-turned snout, a canine body with a tail. It’s the god of destruction, turmoil, illness … i’m not sure that would be allowed with that temper to do the weighing 😉 … though he did like the company of fair Isis .. but his main thing is to cause chaos (he has put him beneath you so that he can lift you up. He will groan beneath you as an earthquake … – Pyramid Texts, Spell 356) .. the flower is, I think, the white lily, which has great alchemical significance .. nymphea flower that Egyptians used in ceremony rites..

Kim

Of course, but my experience tells me that it’s better to start with the simple, partly because you get some success in the start, partly because the rest become smaller each time 🙂

It’s difficult to see what’s in the scales, but a cobra in the left, an urn in the right? and why?

Maat was both the goddess and the personification of truth and justice. Her ostrich feather represents truth.

Maya

Yes looks to me like that, instead of a Maats feather a white cobra like figure .. hard to see yes, on the other side, maybe a scarabeo in red representing the heart, cause it had that representation in the funerary ceremony rites, Isis and god-advocate .. that speaks for the person. why? – ha, to tell you the truth I think i never answered any question that started with why 😉

Kim

Maats feather sounds perfectly right to me, even managed the why. I didn’t know about Maat feathers! Wiki: “the Ancient Egyptian concept of truth, balance, order, law, morality, and justice.” And the heart sounds also perfectly right.
Justice without Compassion is unjust.
I think the whys are pretty interesting; why do people say and do what they do.

And you are right in Thoth too. Symbolizing mind. The heart of Ra.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thoth

Maya

I see how it can be mistaken for Seth easily, cause has the same crux ansata as Seth in the hand, while Thoth is usually depicted with a scroll.

Kim

Has Thoth anything common with Scorpio?
Isis is familiar to Virgo, so on one side we have Virgo and on the other side we have Scorpio. Seth is more like Capricorn.

Maya

I’m not sure with that actually, that’s your lore.

Kim

It states that he became associated with “the judgment of the dead” and that is a Scorpio thing: if the heart is sick, take it out.
Two star signs following each other are their direct opposites, Virgo is the opposite of Libra, and Libra is the opposite of Scorpio, but that don’t make Virgo and Scorpio the same, the sting are different.

Steiner mentions something about the sphinx’s stands for man’s four lowest sheath or bodies, what we have with us down to Earth.
The sphinx to the right is feminine I think, also in blue.

Maya

Silver! :))

Kim

I am gone a little dead now, but we still have a lot of details in the lower part we have to understand and integrate, but otherwise a nice job until now 🙂

The lily then represents Sophia, Mary or Isis, above we have the Rosicrucian Rose representing the Son, Horus and Jesus.
So the mother contains the lower part where the Son contains the upper part. The physical (sphinx=phys, ether, astral, soul) and the spiritual world.
Glass square = physical world.
Circle containing a Seven star containing the scales? Seven planets signifying the planetary powers within the Zodiac.

Maya

You made a great analysis, glass square seems physical world yes, inside of which is a star with seven points (planets, metals-chakras) so reminds me of square-circle combination in Vitruvi’s microcosm macrocosm .. so with that analogy glass square may be representing a man, that has inside of him the little universe resembling the big .. And from which a rose springs and blooms.

Kim

Yes, beautiful, the circle are a micro-zodiac and the star, the seven planets or chakras, together the microcosm, in the cube which are the physical man.
And the rose springs and blooms in the spiritual world.
The two sphinx’ are the powers which manifest in the physical world who Steiner calls Lucifer and Ahriman.
What about the two hands?

Maya

I’ve just been thinking most of the morning how the glass cube is very genius, and, has its own story with layers .. and how very sentient, human .. it is .. and intimately how can this human side of the pic be even sad. I get the feeling that all the other parts of the pic, except the lily, cube, and the rose are pure form satisfied .. but not that part. It is because of the nature of the glass, and that is a genius part. Glass when well polished regularly, gives a beautiful picture of the world, like a man who tends good for his soul, character, all … but when not, when it is unclean, you can’t see what is outside of the cube, and sort of becomes only thing we know -like man that leads very worldly life plagued with all negative sides of it..and it brings ignorance, and also,the sad part-cube becomes  sort of prison, hopeless. So that is from perspective of a man inside the cube .. but window is seen through from both sides, and this view has to do how light comes in to the cube .. so it can only if polished .. and cube is sort of prism that breaks the light in many colours of the rainbow, seven mostly, so this forms a man, and gives light to the growing of the Rose. And that is the manifold creation. But this too has a sad side … and that is this, even with perfectly clean cube and light beautifully coming in, and things outside the cube visible, still the glass visible as it is, is the separator of Man and Cosmos, and its like attached,and influencing but not reachable from the state of being inside and polishing good, except but the rose, rose grows from it, and its only thing that connects humanity with the architecture of the universe. Thank you for clarifying this to me, and that you noticed the glass cube.
To just look at these picture is nice, and one can say they are beautiful then, but that’s just souls recognition automatic of whats beautiful, symmetry and colours .. but I think they should be deciphered, observed well, really so many suggestions in them, underlying structure beyond mere looking.

Kim

Yes, they are fantastic, especially the rose symbolics as the only way out of the box, but it is as you say somewhat depressing, life is not simple. I hope we will see many roses flower in the coming years, though.
But there is something missing, the female mystery, as some calls it, what Douno hints at, another kind of joy and meaningfulness which is not signified in the picture.
I have also thought a little about the floor in the physical plane, the chess board they are standing on could signify the rigid rule of karma, and the glass box is a chess piece which is moved around by Lucifer and Ahriman.
What does the two hands with the fire refer to? The scale is also a cross and the top of the cross is a hand with a finger-pointing up, as we see John the Baptist in Raphael’s paintings.

Maya

I like the chess explanation of rule of karma! Very deep instead of the usual explanation of the masons, how it represents the architecture and geometry of the universe, and how world is lined with parallels and meridians, the order of GAOTU … but the chess game is more reasonable .. But whose hands?

Kim

Beautiful, I didn’t know, I haven’t used much time on the masons, but they are also right, Karma is the building block’s of the physical universe, that’s why it’s called maya, no pun intended 🙂

Maya

haha … You had to draw that from the pocket ha?

Kim

Yes, it was too difficult to resist 🙂
Above the yin/yang sign are what I think is two hands, looking a little like a flower, up from the hands stream a fire changing over into the cross.

Maya

I think it’s not the hands of the Prime Mover, but representing energy-thought-fire moving of individual as participant of divine fire, alchemist. I noticed that there aren’t depictions of God just architecture, and twofold energies in the set of the paintings. So I think it’s the Great Work symbol, on which depends the scale in the end, is it in equilibrium, and is the heart light as the feather. But thats just my impression

Kim

You just lost me a second 🙂
But, if it’s the great work symbol it’s logical to call the flame for the kundalini power. But where does the hands come from? Something with the Earth?

Maya

Hm … i’m not sure … but you are nudging me again .. I got an idea .. count the symbols from below to the sky ending with Sol+Luna, or chymical wedding .. so its Fleur de Lys, cube with the star, rose, yin and yang as equilibrium (neutral), then the hands, then the cross of the scale with what seems to be rose in the cross, and ending with Sol and Luna betwixt.

Kim

Arh, couldn’t you have given the sum 😉 each time I count I find a new way and reaches a new number.
But it looks a little like the Tree of Life, but I only reaches nine.

Maya

Hahaha … The sum – never! I can count 7 .. so I thought could be connected with practical alchemy more … but yes you can count it like that too ..

Kim

I reached 8 when I counted your list.
That I reached 9 was because I missed Kether, but it’s the lying 8 symbol, infinity, so it’s ten now.
The only problem is that we see the Kabbalah tree from the back:)

Maya

🙂 great .. Ill get the mirror, you hold the picture … Remember how Temperance was alluding to the right pillar on gemini picture … I wouldn’t be surprised if things looked inverted either..

Eva and Adam

Kim

The gemini picture was ok in all aspects, it was also the reason I had the problems with Libra, why was the Father to the left and the Mother to the right?
If you look at old Adam and Eva figures and paintings, Adam were nearly always to the right, but more modern paintings have moved him to the left. Maja Hm, i think up to now we got fragments just with this one, i’ve been thinking about the story, the fire cleared it a bit. Ill try to write it in a bit.

Maya

Ok, a bit of stepping from Christian or egyptian or any other religious concept. Back to alchemic basics. Alchemy is trait of fermenting the vital Spirit in and by its own Light – that’s universal and individual. We see on picture regions, celestial, terrestrial and sort of interior underground. Celestial is I think represented by plants-emotional, receptive-in a man a heart region (ok again, rose flower, Christ and all that), terrestrial-sensual represented by animal forms sphinx (half animal half human) – domination in mans body is the head, and thus why maybe the sphinx-symbol of intellectualism, correct answers (the tale of Oedipus and the question ).
Last sphere, underground I think its the glass cube, i thought of prisms – but glass isn’t only prism, its diamond too-thus mineral, in human body its lumbal region. The aim of Alchemy is to reverse the action in their order.
Aha yes, its the same thing I thought but forgot to tell you about, Gichtels picture, it’s not to follow the orbiting its to reverse it. So the fire of natural life entering into fermenting opens, developed and sets free celestial Light.
About the hands and light hermeticism or better say alchemy, is the magnetism of Light-thought to be the emanating spirit of Wisdom , Soph. So to understand the nature respecting that first cause man asks questions, as an extortion of Sphinx like forms of the true answer. About the white proliferation in the below of the picture i think it depicts the vegetable spirit – which is growth-causing. So we have pic of human vital spirit that has to be purified, weighed in order to be regenerated white flower (regeneration, in Egypt, while the blue is enlightenment. But we got it well all and cube too, a cage, prison, entrapped in the mineral – which also means the divine light is somewhat penetrating but hidden from it. Bah, I need a thought to finish it.

Kim

Maya, it was too many ball’s in one, I didn’t catch a single one, constipation I think 🙂

By the way, which of the alchemy book’s do you recommend, when it should be clear and concise and all in all readable.

No, I caught one, the rose in the middle of the Cross, I hadn’t seen it.

Maya

Me too … sort of picture had fallen behind, became blurred … and i’ve seen a beautiful one i’m thinking of and enjoying for 2 days now … this Libra picture is left in some corner of my head just .. if you get new ideas about it please enlighten me ..

Kim

I think we to a great extend have solved it.

Sun is Lucifer or Yang and the Moon is Ahriman or Yin, and they are in equilibrium.
Everything is build around the trinity, even the weight have a cross in the middle.

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