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The Manichean Stream, Freemasonry, Templars and the Third Logos

I have had some problems with Manes and the Manichean stream, I had difficulties connecting it to the Rosicrucian stream or for them to coexist. I understood the incarnations of the Rosicrucian stream, but the incarnation of Manes didn’t fit in. The knowledge of the Three Logoi changes that, the puzzle pieces began finding each other. There were three streams led by three pairs of personalities, not just one.

I have Steiners text on the Three Logoi here: The Logos Walks the Earth and the Theosophists view here: The Three Logoi in the Theosophical tradition. The subject is difficult, but I think it’s worth it.

Steiner have written a text on the Manichean stream in connection with the Freemasons and Templars, The Temple Legend Lecture Six. The connection with the Third Logos is illuminating, it explains the more physical aspects compared to the Rosicrucian stream. I have added comments in italics starting in the margin where the text itself is indented.

From the Lectures on the Temple Legend

Manichaeism founded a mighty spiritual stream to which the mediaeval Albigensians, Waldensians, and Cathari also belonged, and later the Order of the Templars and through an extraordinary concatenation of relationships, Freemasonry. Freemasonry really belongs here, in spite of the fact that it united with the Rosicrucians.

The tradition is as follows: In Western Asia there lived a merchant who was exceedingly learned. He was the Author of four works: (1) The Mysteries, (2) The Letters, (3) The Gospel, and (4) The Thesaurus. Tradition holds that his death he left the writings to his widow, who was a Persian.

She had once redeemed a slave named Manes and he was called ‘the Son of the Widow.’ His followers called themselves ‘Sons of the Widow.’

Manes designated himself ‘Paraclete’ or ‘Holy Spirit’ promised by Christ to humanity — that is as an incarnation of the Holy Spirit, merely a reincarnation of the same.

This means that Manes was the Third Logos.


In the legend of Manichaeism we have a starting point for this examination. It is the Temple Legend.

The Master architect Hiram Abiff, who was the Third Logos of that time, made his masterpiece, building the Temple of Solomon, showing he was ready to become the next Second Logos. King Hiram was the Second Logos of that time.IMG_2293

In their next incarnation Elijah gave the mantle on to Elisha, the Third Logos became Second Logos. The new Third Logos was the incarnating Jesus, who became one with the Earth, who entered the cave, and disappeared. The old Third Logos came out of the cave, the resurrection of Lazarus, who became the new Second Logos under the evangelist John.
The new Third Logos incarnated as Manes, starting the Stream of Manichaeism, continuing after the old Temple Builder Hiram Abiff.

Manes studied all major religions at that time and Manes was merging the different streams into one.

All these Spiritual Streams came to expression esoterically through legends. The Legend of Manes is a legend dealing with super-sensible truths, a mighty cosmic legend.

The Spirits of Darkness wished to storm the Kingdom of Light. They came to its borders for the attack. They were, however, able to achieve nothing. Now they were to be punished by the Kingdom of Light. But in the Kingdom of Light there is only good. Thus the Demons of Darkness could only have been punished through good.

Therefore the Spirits of the Kingdom of Light took a portion of their own kingdom and mingled it into the Kingdom of Darkness. Thereby a leaven, so to speak, came into the Kingdom of Darkness and a kind of vortex arose.

The soul incarnated into the body.

Death came into it, whereby it consumed itself. It now carried within itself the seed of its own destruction. There then arose from the Kingdom of Light the Archetypal Man, the human race who must mingle with the Kingdom of Darkness and overcome it.

The human body, the physical, etheric and the astral body, is the darkness, and the human soul the redeemer.

The deep and profound thought here contained is the following: the darkness must be overcome through the Kingdom of Light, through the mingling of the Good with the Evil, in order that the Evil may be redeemed, but not through punishment.

The conception underlying this is also that of Theosophy, namely that Evil is only an untimely Good. For example, an excellent piano technique is good, but if the executant wanted to hammer it out on the piano in the concert hall, there it would be evil.

That which without any doubt is evil today must have been, in its own time proper place, good. The guiding forces of the Lemurian epoch would work evil in a later epoch if they were then still mingled in evolution.

Animals are perfect to live the life they live. Emotions like anger, hatred, envy, and many more, and desires of various kind were necessary to be a successful animal. This is what became our inherited sins, when we got a self, the self couldn’t control these powerful emotions and desires, they became an evil.

In ancient epochs, in Atlantis and Lemuria, all knowledge was in part influenced by that which stands above man. Not until our own epoch have men matured to the stage where they have, as brothers, human beings who have passed through all stages since the middle of the Lemurian Race.

To help man against the desires and emotions man was controlled from above, from the group souls. When we were ready to take responsibility we incarnated into the body we earlier had hovered above after Jesus entered the Earth at Golgotha, and we with him.

In the Fifth Root Race, the guidance of the soul from above withdraws, leaving it to take its own paths. In esotericism, the soul was called the Mother or Isis. The Father was the Instructor or Osiris, who represented the inpouring Divine. He is the Revealer. The soul conceives or receives. The soul is the Mother.

Osiris is the First Logos, Isis the Second Logos and Horus the Son the Third Logos.

During the Fifth Root Race the Father withdraws. Then the soul is widowed, becomes the Widow. The soul, which will later on become completely independent, is designated by Manes, the Divine Fructifier, as the Widow. Then Manes designates himself as the Son, [Father is First Logos, Mother is Second Logos and Mani is Third Logos. ] He it is who prepares the soul to become independent.

The Dark Night of the Soul happens when the soul becomes alone.

Everything that comes from him is a call to the Divine-Spiritual Light of the soul, a rebellion of the soul against everything which has not come from out of the soul itself. ‘You must strip off everything that is external revelation, everything that external authority has transmitted to you. Then you must become ripe to behold your own soul.’

This is central, everything external is opinions, rules, illusions, wishful thinking of the ego, feelings, desires, and so forth, what we also know as karma in eastern tradition and sin in western.

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From the Kingdom of Light a spark is sent into the Kingdom of Darkness in order that through itself the Darkness may be redeemed, in order that Evil may be overcome through [caring] gentleness.

We must explain the confluence of Life and Form out of the cooperation of Good and Evil. Life becomes form through finding opposition. It does not all at once express itself in a form.

Only consider how Life hurries from form to form. Life has fashioned the lily, then Life overcomes the Form and it passes over into the seed out of which a new form will be born. Life is formless it could[n’t] live out its own nature in itself. Life is everywhere.

Only incarnated does our development have lasting result.

The limited form is the hindrance. There would be no forms if Life were not obstructed and arrested in its forces which stream out in every direction. Form grows precisely out of that which at higher stages appears as fetters.

The new Life is poured into the old Form. What was formerly Life, later becomes Form for a new Life.

The fructification of Manes is today the Life of men. The Form is what has come, like a seed, out of the Lunar Epoch. In that epoch, evolution was the Life of men. Now this is its outer shell, its form.

Our body is the result of the evolution on the old Æon Moon. Manes, who we also know as Jesus or Abel, the Son of Man, was also prepared in that period to take over as the Logos of the physical. He was the archetype of the physical body up through the first half of Earth, where the Second Logos, Cain, the Son of God was the archetype of the human soul.

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The triangle pointing down is the Third Logos, the Triangle pointing up is the First Logos, the center or all of it is the Second Logos.

In the confluence of Life and Form, the other is given at the same time. The Good of an earlier age unites with the Good of a newer age. That gives at the same time the possibility of material manifestation, the possibility of manifested existence. That is the doctrine of Manichaeism.

What is the meaning of the utterance of Manes that he is the Paraclete, the Holy Spirit, the Son of the Widow? It means that he will prepare for that epoch in which the men of the Sixth Root Race will be led by themselves, by the light of their own souls. [The Third Logos.]

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Aton, the sun disc, was the Third Logos
and I think Akhenaten was an incarnation
of the Third Logos.

Manes will create an overlapping stream, a stream which goes further than the stream of the Rosicrucians. The stream of Manes goes over to the Sixth Root Race which has been in preparation since the founding of Christianity. Christianity will appear in its perfected form in the Sixth Root Race.

The Rosicrucian stream is started by the new Second Logos, Lazarus/John, and it concerns the development of the soul. The Stream of the Third Logos, Manichaeism, concerns the body, and it continues after the soul have ended, have raised, preparing the next Æon.

Life as such overcomes every Form. It propagates itself through Christianity and lives in all forms and confessions. Whoever seeks the Christian Life will find it. It creates Forms and shatters Forms. [The Holy Spirit, the redeemed Lucifer, Shiva.

But, in addition, a form for the Christian Life of the Sixth Root Race must be prepared. A number of human beings must be formed into an organization, a Form, in which the Christianity of the Sixth Root Race can find its place. This Form, this external Form of Society must spring from a handful of men whom Manes prepares.

These beings are the pioneers or old souls of the next development phase.

This is the community that Manes prepares. Therefore the first endeavor of Manicheanism is to shape external life in its pure form. That is why Manicheanism laid such great stress on purity.

bodies of manThis is complicated. The Second Logos has it’s I in the soul, it’s the archetype for mankind.
The Third Logos has its I in the astral body, and it’s highest layer is Buddhi.

The Logoi descends down into the creation, with its consciousness creating light in the darkness. It is preparing the bodies for the humanity who will develop in the next Æon, the New Jupiter or New Jerusalem. The Third Logos is the archetype for the next humanity.

The Animals was the perfected result of the last Æon, and up through the first half of the Earth Æon, the Third Logos of that time developed the human body, also working on and with the coming Third Logos. This is also called the Three pre-earthly deeds of Christ/Krishna.

The Cathari were a sect which appeared like a meteor. They gave themselves this name, Cathari, because Cathari means ‘the Pure Ones.’ They were human beings who had to keep themselves pure in their mode of life and in their moral relationships.

In Manicheanism, it was less a question of the cultivation of Life but rather of the cultivation of the external Form of Life for the Sixth Root Race. In this Sixth Root Race, Good and Evil will form a far greater contrast than they do today.

The Third Logos has to do with the body so it has of course to do with the external form.

What will appear in the Fifth Round for the whole of humanity, i.e., that the physiognomy will be a direct expression for that which karma has created in man, so, in the Sixth Root Race, Evil will appear, especially in the Spiritual.

There will be men who are mighty in Love and Goodness. But Evil will also be there as a mood and a disposition without any covering, within a large number of human beings. They will extol Evil. Some inkling in regard to the Evil in the Sixth Root Race glimmers in many men of genius. (Nietzsche’s Blond Beast is a portent of this Evil in the Sixth Root Race.)

The task of the Sixth Root Race is to draw Evil again into itself through [caring] gentleness. In those who are the followers of the Sons of the Widow there will live the inviolable principle that Evil must be overcome through gentleness. That is the task of the Manichean spiritual stream. It appears in forms which many can call to mind, and need not be mentioned. It must express itself in the forming of a community which has to spread above all things: Peace, Love, and Non-resistance to Evil. It must create a Form for the Life that is to come later.

Augustine worked out the Form of the Catholic Church. It was the Form for the present, and had to be the most vigorous opponent of the Form for the future. Augustine, building the Form for the present, Faustus striving to prepare in man the sense for the Form of the future — that was the contrast in the third and fourth centuries after Christ. It is still there. It comes to expression later, again modified and toned down, in the two streams of Augustinianism and Manichaeism.

That is the contrast which developed in the third and fourth centuries A.D. It is still present and finds expression in the struggle of the Catholic Church against the Knights Templars, the Rosicrucians, Albigenses, Cathars and so on. All of them are eliminated from the physical plane, but their inner spirit continues to be active. This contrast manifests again later in modified but still violent form in two currents born out of Western culture, that of Jesuitism (pertaining to Augustine) and that of Freemasonry (Manicheism). Those who lead the battle on the one side are all conscious of what they are doing — they are the Catholics and Jesuits of the higher degrees. Of those, however, who are on the other side, who lead the battle in the spirit of Mani, only very few are conscious; only those at the head of the movement are conscious of it.

Thus Jesuitism (belonging to Augustine) and Freemasonry (Manicheism) confront one another in later centuries. They are the offspring of ancient spiritual currents. That is why you have in both these currents a continuation of the same ceremonies connected with initiation that you find in the old currents. The initiation into Jesuitism has the four degrees: Coadjutores temporales, Scholares, Coadjutores spirituales, Professi. The degrees of initiation in the true occult Freemasonry are similar. The two run parallel to one another but they point in quite different directions.

The peacock was a symbol for Lucifer, the Third Logos, and it
is also connected to Manes:

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The Three Logoi in the Theosophical tradition

The Three Logoi as defined in Theosophy

This follows the definition of Helena Blavatsky as it’s described in blavatskytheosophy.com, a serious Theosophical site.

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THE FIRST LOGOS is always referred to as the Unmanifested Logos. It is symbolised as the point in the centre of the circle, the circle representing the boundless infinite Absoluteness of Parabrahm and the point marking the very beginning – or rather the re-beginning – of differentiated existence after the Great Night of the Universe (Maha-Pralaya) in which there was nothing – “neither sound nor silence” – but the undifferentiated, unconditioned, infinite, absolute Parabrahm Itself.

The First, Unmanifested, Logos is also called the highest Logos. It is said that it is out of space and time and is “latent potentiality” only. The First Logos is the “potentiality” of the Universe, whilst the Second Logos is the “potency” of the Universe. The Second emanates from the First. Being only latent, potential, and unmanifested, the First Logos is very close to the Absolute and indeed is Its direct radiation. It is not really possible to say any more about it than this. But in the teachings of Theosophy we notice that Atman, the highest Principle of the human constitution, is sometimes spoken of as corresponding to the Unmanifested Logos, whilst most of the time it is equated with the Absolute. This is not a contradiction, as may appear on the surface, but is actually a clear indication of something.

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THE SECOND LOGOS is the Manifested Logos. In and of itself it is actually only “the semi-manifested” for it manifests through and as the Third Logos. In “Transactions,” HPB speaks of it as “the Universal and Intelligent Soul, Divine Ideation, combining the ideal plans and prototypes of all things in the manifested objective as well as subjective world.”

Whilst the First Logos is described as “latent potentiality,” the Second is described as “differentiated consciousness.” We are told that space and time commences with the emanation of the Second Logos from the First Logos. The Unmanifested is the potentiality; the Manifested is the potency.

It is this Logos which is the Universal Mind, spoken of in Hinduism as Mahat, which literally means “The Great.” And as the Hindu allegories show, the Divine Mind produces “seven mind-born sons” which go on to play major and important roles throughout the Universe. The synthesis of these seven – which are actually seven rays, seven powers, or seven forces – is what Theosophy calls the Third Logos.

THE THIRD LOGOS is referred to variously as the Seven Rays, the Seven Creative Powers, or the Seven Logoi. The Second Logos contains in itself the Third Logos and manifests through and as this Third Logos, as was mentioned a moment ago. If we call the First Logos latent potentiality and the Second differentiated consciousness, we can refer to the Third as the ultimate differentiation of the Second, in the form of individualised cosmic forces. From them “will proceed the innumerable series of Hierarchies.”

These “Seven” are really the seven occult forces of the Universe and which result, amongst other things, in the actualisation and objective manifestation of that which lies latent, subjective, and archetypal within the Universal Mind. In other words, they see to the fulfillment of the Plan for the construction and building of the Universe.

“Many different names used in many different spiritual traditions may end up becoming confusing unless we keep in mind that they are almost always merely illustrative names applied to this same Logos. Just as it is Brahmā which comes forth as the Logos from the Absolute Brahman in the philosophy of the Upanishads, so it is Adam Kadmon (“Heavenly Man”) which comes forth as the Logos from Ein-Soph in the Kabbalah, and Avalokiteshvara which comes forth from Adi-Buddhi in the esotericism of Tibetan Buddhism. Some Hindus will speak of the Absolute and its Logos as Shiva and Shakti, while others will prefer to use the term Vishnu, Narayana, or Ishvara for the Logos. Others may speak of it as the Universal Kundalini or Mother of the Universe, while a true Christian Gnostic may be inclined to call it the Divine Sophia.

In Theosophy, the Unmanifested Logos is often referred to as Narayana. Narayana is another name for Vishnu in Hinduism and it can be translated as “the Spirit of Divine Ideation moving on the waters.” Do you remember in the opening of the Book of Genesis in the Bible where it talks about the “Spirit of God” moving over “the waters of the deep” before the world came into being? In the far older Hindu scriptures, we read that Narayana began to move over the infinite waters of abstract Space and that this was “the first flutter of manifestation” which resulted in the cyclic reappearance of the Universe after the Maha-Pralaya.

HPB sometimes spoke of the First Logos as Brahmā, however, and often applied the name Brahmā to the Second Logos also. So we would do well to follow her example in not attaching too much importance to names but focussing instead on the idea and concept which lies behind those names and terms.

The Seven Rays which are referred to as the Third Logos are the Seven Kumaras in Hinduism – which are the seven “mind-born Sons of Brahmā” or Sons of the Universal Mind – whilst in Buddhism they are the Seven Dhyani Buddhas, in Christianity the Seven Archangels, in Judaism the Seven Elohim, and the seven lower Sephiroth of the Kabbalah. All different names for one and the same “thing.” As the most ancient scripture known to man (the Rig Veda of Hinduism) says, “Truth is ONE, though the sages call it by many names.”

The main difference between Steiner and Blavatsky is that Steiner see these descriptions as describing actual beings and hierarchies where Blavatsky saw them as abstractions. Krishna is an example of the Second Logos, Shiva an example of the Third Logos and Brahma an example of the First Logos. Here it’s interesting to see that Brahma, First Logos, is both connected to the lowest world and the highest world, and that he really isn’t very active in the development of Earth. Krishna, who are the same as Vishnu, are the ‘I’ of the Earth, the center of the Seven Rays, the Heart Chakra of man, he is the main consciousness in the Earth development.

From The Causal Body and the Ego by Arthur E. Powell:

Taking first the manifestation of consciousness, the site of the universe having been marked out [see diagram II] :

1. the Logos Himself appears as a point within the sphere;
2. the Logos goes forth from that point in three directions to the circumference of that sphere or circle of matter;
3 the consciousness, of the Logos returns on Itself, manifesting at each point of contact with the circle one of the three fundamental aspects of consciousness, known as Will, Wisdom and Activity, as well as by other terms.

The joining of the three aspects, or phases of manifestation, at their outer points of contact with the circle, gives the basic triangle of contact with matter. This triangle, together with the three triangles formed by the lines traced by the point, yields the”divine tetractys”, sometimes called the Kosmic Quaternary.

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Taking now the changes set up in Universal matter, corresponding to the manifestations of consciousness, we have, in the sphere of primordial substance, the virgin matter of space [see Diagram III ] :
the Logos

1. appearing as a point irradiating the sphere of matter;
2. the point vibrating between centre and circumference, thus making the line which marks the drawing apart from spirit and matter;
3. the point, with the line revolving with it, vibrating at right angles to the former vibration, and forming the primordial Cross within the Circle.

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The Cross is thus said to “proceed” from the Father [the point] and the Son [the diameter] and represents the third Logos, the creative mind,the Divine activity ready to manifest as Creator.

I have used a drawing of Steiner to show the Three Logoi in the hierarchies and in man. It’s an old diagram of European esoteric origin called the Alchemist Mountain. It’s a versatile diagram that can be used to show many aspects of man, the gods and the universe. They are the Seven Rays mentioned by Blavatsky.

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The Three Logoi as defined in Anthroposophy

This is a definition by Rudolf Steiner on the three creative principles in the universe, also called the Logoi’s:

Here we have three definitions of Beings who bring about, who underlie a planetary chain. They are called the three Logoi.

1. The Third Logos produces by means of combining.
2. When out of one substance something else having new life comes into being, this is brought forth by the Second Logos.
3. Everywhere, however, where we have to do with a coming forth out of nothing, we have the First Logos.

This is why the First Logos is also often called the One who is immanent in things, the Second Logos the One who in the quiescent substance in things creates life out of the living, the Third Logos the One who combines everything existing, who puts the world together out of things.    

These three Logoi always manifest in the world in and through one another.

See much more on this here: The Logos Walks the Earth

Steiner uses these symbols for the Three Logoi. He uses a tripartition for the third Logos where Theosophy uses a cross or a four partitioning.

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First Logos gives the idea, Second Logos gives life and Third Logos gives the resulting form.

The combinations of the three letters a, b and c comes from:

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Appendix on Fohat

The Second Logos is also called Fohat, here a page from the Secret Doctrine:

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The Soul’s Infoldment into the Physical World

According to Steiner, human beings incarnate by infolding the higher bodies into the physical universe/body, so that, instead of permeating the spiritual worlds, they become enclosed in a little fold into the physical universe. It seems to be a standard procedure within the biological world:

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The illustration below shows how Steiner describes it, with each enclosure representing a human being, Animals would not have the group soul in the enclosure: it would be outside.

When we sleep, our astral body and soul leaves the enclosure and when we die the ether body unfolds too.


Here some examples of the aura, kind of egg-shaped, resembling the Grail, especially the open one in fig. 8. where the folding has been opened and the cocoon is empty. At initiation the cocoon will open at the top, at the crown chakra, but without the soul leaving the cocoon.

The more pure our soul, the more it is filled with light and the more connected it is at the top. I believe that it opens fully at initiation, when the crown chakra opens.

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These drawings are by Eli Wamberg of his students auras, from his private diary.
Fig 5. a male student, fig. 6. same student, four month later, fig. 7. a female student
and fig. 8. a male student after death.

The following table shows the bodies we had in the four Earth-incarnations we have had until now, how much had been infolded into the physical in each period.

In the old Saturn incarnation we were as today’s minerals, at old Sun as today’s plants and on the old Moon as today’s animals, and today the soul are incarnated too, with the I.

The infolding may be connected to the morphogenesis:

“We all start life as a small ball of cells. These cells proliferate and organize into tissues, which in turn grow and fold into the complex form that defines a human being. The process that leads from a formless ball to a functional organism—known as morphogenesis …”

Morphogenesis.

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Krishna and the Holy Spirit

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Krishna and the Flute

A dear friend of mine made me aware of Krishna in modern India, and I am impressed by the life and devotion.

I got the inspiration that we in the western world also know Krishna, but we know him as the Holy Spirit, or rather we know the name, we don’t understand the Spirit.

And when thinking about it, I realized that I should have known it beforehand, as, in my understanding, Jesus became the Holy Spirit. Following Steiner incarnated Krishna as Jesus.

The disciples ask Jesus if he needs to die and he answers that if he don’t die, the Comforter wouldn’t appear, the Holy Spirit wouldn’t appear.

When Jesus died, he entered the death world, the astral world, and the astral world is where the Holy Spirit works the clockwork of the Earth. Jesus is the top of an Iceberg, physically he is a man, but spiritually a god.

So the outer teacher Krishna or Jesus became the inner teacher, the Comforter or Holy Spirit.

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Krishna and the Holy Spirit

The Holy Spirit is known as the Wind in the Willows and Krishna is known through his flute, the melody behind life, the consciousness behind the physical world, and if we listen carefully, are conscious about the details in our life, we can hear the melody, see the trace of small miracles everywhere.

Krishna, the Holy Spirit, is the teacher of humankind, although we often believe he’s a trickster, as we don’t understand the path our life takes.

Steiner compares the teaching of Arjuna by Krishna with the teachings of the Holy Spirit through sct. Paul, and that is really the same being, first as an outer teacher, later as an inner teacher. See The Bhagavad Gita and the Epistles of Paul. Lecture 5 of 5.

When Saul have the Christ vision he gets blinded by the light of Krishna/Holy Spirit, it enters into him, he now have the wisdom of Krishna, the Holy Spirit, when he can see again he sees with the understanding of the Holy Spirit, Saulus became Paulus.

A dialog from Gita Govinda about Krishna’s real purpose of being born, to establish dharma, to be the comforter of humanity, the Holy Spirit.

Radha: But some day you will leave Vrindavan?

Krishna: Yes, I have to. I will have to move towards my real purpose of being born.

Radha: What is your real purpose of being born?

Krishna: To establish `dharma’ so that right can triumph over wrong.

Radha: What was the purpose of your time spent in Vrindavan? Especially with me.

Krishna: To teach people the weapon with which they can triumph good over evil.

Radha: Which is?

Krishna: Love. Only Love can conquer everything. When you fight with Love, no one gets hurt; not even the ones you’re fighting with.

Radha: So will all your wars be fought with Love?

Krishna: I will try my best to do that. If it doesn’t work, then I may have to use other means so good can triumph over evil, but personally, I won’t lift any other weapon apart from Love and counseling; but I may encourage others to do so if all else fails.

Radha: (Radha is surprised) What will you “take” from them?

Krishna: In return for their partnerships, I will “take” from them, their most painful & difficult karma.

Radha: What kind of painful & difficult karma?

Krishna: Pain, sadness, loneliness, grief, poverty… anything. And I’ll replace it with love.

Krishna: I will take brunt of their most difficult karma, so they can lead a good life. I will make their life easier.

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That is what is meant when Jesus dies to take our sin on his shoulders, by dying he leaves Vrindavan and enters the death world, our inner astral world, and becomes the Comforter, the Holy Spirit, helping us bear the burden of karma.

See also Krishna and the Flute

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Krishna as Teacher of Love

A dear friend of mine made me aware of Krishna in modern India, and I am impressed by the life and devotion.

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One of the central themes is the love between Krishna and Radha.

It’s the same story we also know in Greek with Hermaphroditos and Salmakis or from the Hebrew with Adam and Lilith.

The love affair starts when the astral body joins with the etheric body, and it ends when Krishna leaves Radha, the astral separates from the etheric, causing Radhas death, symbolizing that the etherbody are bound to the physical body.

This is both a cosmic event, that happened when dreamtime ended, but it happens also each day, when we go through the small death.

When we wake, and the etherbody joins with the astral body, the love affair starts.

When we sleep, and the astral body separates from the etherbody, only connected to the etherbody through a silver cord, she dies, she become unconscious and enter sleep.

The initiation, the Rosicrucian Chümical wedding, the Union of the masculine and feminine, is the marriage between Krishna and Radha, thereafter they will not separate again.

Krishna as Teacher of Love

A dialog from Gita Govinda is telling that each person is the half of a soul, that they are searching their other half (twin-spirit), and one of Krishna’s tasks is to learn humankind to love, as it’s the only way to find the other half.

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Krishna: “When two souls are united, the difference of the other or second vanishes; so if we are but one soul, then why do you wish for marriage?”

Radha: “Right now I see no difference between me and the others; everyone thinks you belong to them; so how does that set me apart?”

Krishna: “There are hundred Gopis who search for me every day; who wish to be with me; but you’re the only one I search for, and wish to be with; does that not set you apart?”

Radha: “No, it does not; because you seem eager to accept the Love of every Gopi, not just mine; I have no proof I’m apart from others.”

Krishna: “I am eager to accept the Love of not just every Gopi, but every Gwala, and every other creature that wants to shower me with love.

Can’t you see Radha, that is the purpose why I am here; to fill every living soul with Love; to teach every creature to Love.
I cannot reject any Love that is offered to me; Love requires both strength and courage. It requires courage to profess Love; Love that is professed and accepted gives strength.

Courage and strength will help every living being to endure the highs and lows of life. By encouraging living beings to profess their love to me, I gift them courage; by accepting their love, I gift them strength

If every Radha has to find her Krishna, and every Krishna His Radha, they have to start somewhere, with someone.

I am that Beginning; by learning to love me, and feeling that they are loved in return, I take every Gopi and Gwala as every other creature one step forward towards their own Krishnas and Radhas.

If I were to reject their Love, then they would never have the courage to ever profess Love to anyone again, then how would they ever find and unite, with their own Krishnas and Radhas?”

Radha: “Even if I were to accept what you are saying Krishna, how does it prevent you from marrying me, if it is important to me? What is it that prevents you from marrying me?

Krishna: “Because, we are but one soul; marriage is to unite two souls; we are one soul split into two; we are simply part of the other.”

Radha: “If we are but one soul split into two, then Krishna, then you should not have a problem offering me marriage.”

Krishna: “Now you are speaking from Ego; Ego divides; you are seeing us as two separate entities; speak from Love and you’ll see we were one.”

Krishna and Romanticism

At the start of the human development we were animals with a soul seed, we acted as animals and we procreated as animals, mindless love, we should learn to love as individuals, face to face, and it didn’t happen by chance, books were written to teach mankind how to do it, into the least detail, like Kama Sutra, and Krishna teached man how to love with the heart.

 

A sahajiya poem of Vidyāpati is rendered into English by David R. Kinsley thus:

As I near the bed,
He smiles and gazes.
Flower-arrows fill the world.
The sport of love,
Its glow and luxuries
Are indescribable, O friend,
And when I yield myself,
His joy is endless.
Freeing my skirt,
He snatches at my garland.
My downcast mind
Is freed of frontiers,
Though my life is held
In the net of his love.
He drinks my lips.
With heart so thrilled,
He take my clothes away.
I lose my body
At his touch
And long to check
But grant his love.

Says Vidyāpati:

Sweet as honey
Is the talk of a girl in love.

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